# streams WG Meeting 2015-01-30

## Links

- **Google Hangouts Video**: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9nDOSGfwZg
- **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/iojs/readable-stream/issues/106
- **Original Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17aTgLnjMXIrfjgNaTUnHQO7m3xgzHR2VXBTmi03Qii4/

## Agenda

Extracted from https://github.com/iojs/readable-stream/labels/wg-agenda prior to meeting.

- adopt a charter [#105](https://github.com/iojs/readable-stream/issues/105)
- release and versioning strategy [#101](https://github.com/iojs/readable-stream/issues/101)
- simpler stream creation [#102](https://github.com/iojs/readable-stream/issues/102)
- proposal: deprecate implicit flowing of streams [#99](https://github.com/iojs/readable-stream/issues/99)

## Minutes

### adopt a charter

- group: +1's all around

### What versioning scheme should be adopted?

- group: +1’s 3.0.0
- domenic+group: pulling in patches from other sources where appropriate
- mikeal: version independently, suggesting versions for io.js
- mikeal+domenic: work with TC to notify in advance of changes
  simpler stream creation

### streamline creation of streams

- sam: streamline creation of streams
- domenic: nice simple solution posted
  but, we lose the opportunity to change the model
  may not be backwards incompatible (double check keys)

  **action item:** domenic will check

### remove implicit flowing of streams on(‘data’)

- add isFlowing / isPaused
- mikeal: worrying that we’re documenting polyfill methods – confuses users
- domenic: more reflective API is probably good, with warning labels for users
- new section for mad scientists (reflective stream access)
- calvin: name the “third state”
- mikeal: maybe borrow the name from whatwg?
- domenic: we’re missing the “third state”
- consensus: kind of difficult to name the third state
- mikeal: figure out differences in states / compat
- mathias: always flow on data – eliminates third state
  - explore what it breaks

**action items:**

- ask isaac for ability to list packages by what public io.js APIs they use (esp. Stream)
- ask rod/build for infrastructure
- **chris**: explore the “flow on data” approach
- add isPaused/isFlowing
- add new docs section
- move isPaused to that section
