From razor-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net  Thu Jul 25 10:56:21 2002
Return-Path: <razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net>
Delivered-To: yyyy@localhost.netnoteinc.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by phobos.labs.netnoteinc.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1B1440D1
	for <jm@localhost>; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 05:56:19 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from dogma.slashnull.org [212.17.35.15]
	by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.0)
	for jm@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:56:19 +0100 (IST)
Received: from usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (usw-sf-fw2.sourceforge.net
    [216.136.171.252]) by dogma.slashnull.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id
    g6OJ48402000 for <jm-razor@jmason.org>; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:04:09 +0100
Received: from usw-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.13]
    helo=usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net) by usw-sf-list2.sourceforge.net with
    esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 17XRGv-0001md-00; Wed,
    24 Jul 2002 11:54:05 -0700
Received: from mail.torresen.com ([64.106.149.110]) by
    usw-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with smtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id
    17XRGP-00083R-00 for <razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net>; Wed,
    24 Jul 2002 11:53:33 -0700
Received: (qmail 7511 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2002 06:51:33 -0000
Received: from chcgil2-ar6-4-47-169-072.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net (HELO
    christopher.torresen.com) (4.47.169.72) by mail.torresen.com with SMTP;
    24 Jul 2002 06:51:33 -0000
Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020724145323.04fe3790@mail.torresen.com>
X-Sender: christopher@mail.torresen.com@mail.torresen.com
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1
To: "rODbegbie" <rOD@arsecandle.org>
From: Christopher VanOosterhout <chris@torresen.com>
Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Authentication Error
Cc: <razor-users@example.sourceforge.net>
In-Reply-To: <00d301c2332f$1ca59b90$b554a8c0@RAGING>
References: <20020711084825.W60740-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net>
    <20020723211828.Y98572-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net>
    <20020724141339.GD3208@fsckit.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Sender: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net
Errors-To: razor-users-admin@example.sourceforge.net
X-Beenthere: razor-users@example.sourceforge.net
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net
Precedence: bulk
List-Help: <mailto:razor-users-request@example.sourceforge.net?subject=help>
List-Post: <mailto:razor-users@example.sourceforge.net>
List-Subscribe: <https://example.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users>,
    <mailto:razor-users-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe>
List-Id: <razor-users.example.sourceforge.net>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://example.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users>,
    <mailto:razor-users-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.geocrawler.com/redir-sf.php3?list=razor-users>
X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:53:38 -0400
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:53:38 -0400

unsubscribe

At 12:26 PM 7/24/02 -0400, rODbegbie wrote:
>Tabor J. Wells wrote:
> > And where does it say production-ready? http://razor.sourceforge.net
> > says at the top of the page:
> >
> > June 13, 2002 - Vipul's Razor v2 released! The first beta of Vipul's
> > Razor v2 is now available for public download.
>
>1)  I think the code is still very much pre-beta.
>
>2)  When you go to the "Download" page, it tells you "Fetch the latest
>versions of razor-agents and razor-agents-sdk packages"  It is not at all
>clear that these are development packages.
>
>The site is badly designed, and very misleading.  IMO.  The fact that the
>word "beta" appears in the middle of some introductory text on the front
>page is hardly a valid argument.  (Well accepted software design "fact":
>USERS DON'T READ *ANYTHING*)
>
>I get the impression that Vipul & co are deliberately trying to mislead
>users into downloading the dev code in order to get more unwitting test
>sites.
>
>But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
>
>rOD.
>
>--
>Anyway... long story short...
>...is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.
>
> >> Doing the blogging thang again at http://www.groovymother.com/ <<
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
>Welcome to geek heaven.
>http://thinkgeek.com/sf
>_______________________________________________
>Razor-users mailing list
>Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users

--
Christopher VanOosterhout
Torresen Marine, Inc.
Internet Division
http://www.torresen.com/
http://www.marinedieseldirect.com/
3126 Lake Shore Drive
Muskegon, Michigan 49441
231-759-8596



-------------------------------------------------------
This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek
Welcome to geek heaven.
http://thinkgeek.com/sf
_______________________________________________
Razor-users mailing list
Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users


