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Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Re: patent on TMDA-like system
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>>From tmda.net/history.html:

The first release of TMDA in April 2001 was essentially a rewrite of TMS in
Python, <snip>

April 2001 is earlier than July 26, 2001... prior art..

from http://tmda.net/releases/old/
 Parent Directory        19-Aug-2002 16:14      -
 README.MD5SUM           19-Aug-2002 16:14     4k
 tmda-0.01.tgz           22-Apr-2001 15:59    11k
 tmda-0.02.tgz           26-Apr-2001 12:06    12k
 tmda-0.02.txt           26-Apr-2001 12:50     1k
 tmda-0.10.tgz           27-Apr-2001 21:14    39k
 tmda-0.10.txt           30-Apr-2001 11:36     3k
 tmda-0.11.tgz           02-May-2001 17:17    38k
 tmda-0.11.txt           02-May-2001 17:06     3k
 tmda-0.12.tgz           10-May-2001 19:50    39k
 tmda-0.12.txt           10-May-2001 19:48     1k
 tmda-0.13.tgz           17-May-2001 15:53    39k
 tmda-0.13.txt           17-May-2001 15:57     2k
 tmda-0.14.tgz           24-May-2001 16:43    46k
 tmda-0.14.txt           24-May-2001 16:40     4k
 tmda-0.15.tgz           28-May-2001 15:20    47k
 tmda-0.15.txt           28-May-2001 15:20     1k
 tmda-0.20.tgz           06-Jun-2001 17:52    49k
 tmda-0.20.txt           06-Jun-2001 18:46     6k
 tmda-0.21.tgz           18-Jun-2001 18:32    51k
 tmda-0.21.txt           18-Jun-2001 18:31     2k

TMDA was already at 0.21 8 days before filing for a patent..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason R. Mastaler" <jason-exp-1031164464.7f11b3@mastaler.com>
To: "Justin Mason" <yyyy@spamassassin.taint.org>
Cc: <spamassassin-talk@example.sourceforge.net>; <tmda-users@tmda.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:34 AM
Subject: [SAtalk] Re: patent on TMDA-like system


jm@jmason.org (Justin Mason) writes:

> Sounds a lot like TMDA to me. :( Filing date is July 26, 2001,
> granted May 16, 2002.
>
> TMDAers, have you seen this before?

No, but thanks for pointing it out.

> I'd presume TMDA is prior art, but still, it could be troublesome...

Yup.  TMDA's core functionality was fully established before even the
filing date.

Anyone with experience in this area have a recommendation on whether
this should be pursued or not?


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