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----- Original Message -----
From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah@shipwright.com>

>
> Seriously. Look at he life expectancy and human carrying capacity of
> this continent before the Europeans got here. Look at it now. Even
> for descendants of the original inhabitants. Even for the descendents
> of slaves, who were brought here by force.
I wouldn't say that the societies of humans here before European occupancy
was 'lifted' by free xyz. Perhaps 'replaced' or 'sunk' or some other
description, but not 'lifted'. Also, the lifestyle of the remnants of those
societies is on average only marginally above poverty even today.


